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Debate with a chair: Why even talk about this?
SOURCE: BlackBoxVoting.ORG
The fabric of your democracy is being altered without any public debate. Voting rights advocates are split on whether proposed legislation will restore confidence or nail the coffin shut on our representative democracy. Our calls for public debate have not been accepted, and due to the importance of the issues involved, Black Box Voting is attempting to develop a more public dialog on these issues, as a public service. We have culled through over one thousand back-channel e-mails, in which well-known election reform and voting rights leaders on both sides have argued their case.
Because those with opposing points of view disagree with the value of a public debate, we have represented their arguments with an empty chair, along with an invitation for them to join this debate at any time. One new issue in the "Debate with a Chair" will be published each day from now through the Fourth of July. You may join in the debate; Click "more" at the end of this introduction to see the whole debate as it evolves. If you are new to Black Box Voting, you'll find instructions for how to join the debate at the end of the article. ARE WE FACING A "CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" TO DEMOCRACY? We are on the cusp of enacting massive changes in our election system for the second time in five years. These legislative changes quietly rewrite how elections are conducted – how we will certify the upcoming presidential election, what machinery we'll vote on, our litigation rights, election administration timelines and – most important – the fundamental checks and balances designed to give citizens sovereignty over their own government: states' rights, the public right to know, and secret vote counting. At issue: how changes in U.S. election policies impact the following: (1) The necessity for a free people to be able to remove either honest or
corrupt governance in order to remain free. This is the essence of citizen
control, as contrasted with government control of elections. FIRST: THE DEBATE OVER WHETHER TO HAVE A DEBATE One set of election reformers believes that the only realistic path to improvement is to pass paper trail legislation for 2008, regardless of what rights will be compromised away with that promise. Among the groups and leaders in this category are VoteTrustUSA, Verified Voting, People for the American Way, MoveOn and several computer professionals, including Avi Rubin, David Dill and Barbara Simons. Another set of voting rights advocates – groups involved in front-lines election watchdog work, election litigation efforts and grass roots citizen empowerment -- believe that the pending legislation represents a "clear and present danger" to representative democracy itself. While these voting rights advocates agree on the need for paper ballots, they believe the other changes piggybacked into current paper trail legislation will destabilize our democracy. Among these groups and leaders: Bev Harris, founder of Black Box Voting; Nancy Tobi, co-founder of Democracy for New Hampshire; Paul Lehto, co-founder of Psephos; Election Defense Alliance; VotersUnite; Brad Friedman, of Bradblog; Mary Ann Gould, of Citizens for Voting Integrity; Coalition for Visible Ballots, Vote Rescue, author Mark Crispin Miller and computer expert Dr. Rebecca Mercuri. Many citizens who normally look to us for guidance are confused. Leaders are aligned on opposite sides. Groups that normally are adversaries find themselves in alliance, and groups that should be on the same side discover they are opponents. What does this mean? "Debate with a Chair" series will help you get up to speed quickly so that you can evaluate the issues yourself. Back-channel argumentation on this has been heated: Here are some of the arguments that have been flying through our e-mails: "Whoever is giving us this is someone not fighting for -- or even framing – election reform in terms of democracy," say Paul Lehto, the election rights attorney who got the touch-screens kicked out of Snohomish County in Washington, and fought the high profile San Diego "CA50" case. Should changes be made in the foundation of democracy without calling attention to the issues through public discussion?
"For the good of the republic, will you engage in a public debate, in the city of your choice, on a date within the next two weeks or so, with a jury of say 100 citizens, on the question of whether proposed legislation HR 811 meets the necessary standards for free people who are citizens of a representative democracy like ours? If I am not important enough, is there anybody that you would debate on the question of what democracy requires in a voting system?" Following Lehto's question, a new query regarding televising the debate was added into the mix by citizen Chuck Garner.
"One of the core issues in such debates should be how citizens are allowed to retain control of their government when government controls the mechanisms of elections, which mostly take place in secret. I think it would be an excellent public education strategy to host a series of debates nationwide, with proponents of democratic elections vs. proponents of techno-elections." But advocates of the new legislation were protective of the bill's sponsor, Rush Holt D-NJ:
"Bev Harris constructively calls for a public debate on the core of the critical issue we are all facing, a debate which might possibly help resolve the confusions of highly informed people such as myself, let alone bring some much needed awareness to the less informed."
No dice.
Overriding Lehto's curiosity about how those votes on the debate were counted, high profile political blogger Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com weighed in:
An aggressive proponent of the new legislation who first opposed it but now supports it, stepped into the fray:
But this offer was declined.
Take the one policy that is available and do it?
"I strongly urge that both Bev Harris and Nancy Tobi are part of this debate, that seems to be forming with all straight white men -- as they duplicate the dominant culture. Not the kind of democracy I am at all interested in and no better than what we have now - no matter how many Holt Bills get legislated or do not get legislated. And Rebecca Mercuri too."
Had enough? Perhaps it's time to distill out the key arguments from both sides so you can make up your own mind. To recap what we'd like to discuss here: How do changes in U.S. election policy affect... (1) The necessity for a free people to control their own elections in order
to remain free This is your country. These are your rights. Your election system will be one of the legacies you leave to your children. So, when would be a good time to navigate this intellectual terrain? (How about now?)
1. Can we agree that freedom depends on the ability of citizens to control their own elections, holding them beyond the power of the government to manipulate? 2. Do we have consensus that we have the right to dislodge public officials that we don't want, and if so, is this right to vote people out of office fundamental to democracy? 3. And if so, does the current system secure that right?
Then the Constitution was written to create principles to support the ideas/beliefs of the Declaration. In turn all legislation is supposed to be within the framework of the Constitution based on the values of the Declaration. Without an overarching framework, we lack a guide to develop and evaluate legislative, regulatory and government processes properly. We then get a mess like HAVA and a further patchwork like the mutated Holt and radical Feinstein bills. We MUST have that framework of overarching principles to both guide and evaluate changes in how we conduct elections.
- Do we have consensus that the right to dislodge a crooked government is fundamental to democracy? This refers back to the inalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence. If we agree on that, we can then proceed to discuss which mechanics secure and protect that right, and which ones don't.
How about this for debate points that are "within reach":
2) The proposed legislation cements control of secret vote counting to the executive branch 3) The proposed legislation provides sets the scene for unlimited litigation on election challenges. 4) The proposed legislation has many big ticket items that are unfunded. 5) The proposed legislation will not provide any relief for 2008. WE WANT: A simple stripped down bill
By ntobi at 06/28/2007 - 06:33 | Fair elections | Features | Federal Election Legislation | Holt Bill | login or register to post comments
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